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looking for advice

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:15 pm
by skullie
hi all am looking for a thread on here regarding a zxr400 with a single swing arm conversion on it ???

just wanted to find out what and where the owner got the parts from ??

am very interested in doing the same to my zx400g !

cheers

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:02 am
by Mori Man
Considering your limited by the amount of single sided bikes in the first place your then left with:

NSR250 MC28
VFR/RVF400
VFR750

Unless you go exotica !

YOUR not going to get a bolt and play solution so get what you can source and make it fit.

:smt001

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:12 am
by RedexRobB
Dont forget Triumph daytona swinger too ;)

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:27 pm
by Jamz
And Ducati's.

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:29 pm
by Mori Man
MV Agusta too - but I class all these exotica :smt007

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:44 pm
by Jamz
And remember the main thing about SS's:

They're -ing HEAVY!

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:30 pm
by cargo
Jamz wrote:And remember the main thing about SS's:

They're -ing HEAVY!

True

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:12 pm
by Jimzxr400L1
wip the gas axe out haha oj why would you want a single one ?? just look better or?/??

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:46 pm
by skullie
l'm up got a challenge !!!!

just saw the link on here and thought it was a good idea ?? perhaps l was wrong ?

as i said i was thinking of doing the same , you know just thinking !!

not too sure if it would look any good with the fat ass i already have on the bike
perhaps i'll consider it at a later date once i got the rear end sorted out who knows

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:33 pm
by Jamz
They're a Godsend for chain/sprocket changes and whipping the rear wheel out. Remember to make use of that feature on a ZXR you'll also need a special rear paddock stand/adapter.

Having said that, the above features are far more essential on a race bike than a road bike, and how many in a WSB or even Moto GP paddock have them? It seems strange that the Moto GP bikes don't use them - assuming they're allowed to craft swingarms from carbon fibre etc? Or do they?

*goes off to look at pics of GP bikes*

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:37 pm
by Jamz
Looking at some pics on Google, it looks to me like EVERYBODY in Moto GP is using a conventional swingarm setup.

So it does seem like single swingarms are purely for cosmetics...

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:57 pm
by SOILZX
I'm guessing the reason they don't tend to get used in GP's etc is due to weight and flex. The speed they can change a rear wheel at using a conventional swingarm is ridiculous (leave the rear sprocket behind so chain tension etc is ok) and i don't suppose it'd be any quicker with a single sided 1 to be honest.

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:45 pm
by cargo
You can do wheel changes just as fast with a regular swing arm

If you could get a close up look you'd see that there are little cups that from part of the chain adjuster and the wheel spacers fit into the cups and the wheel is in the correct position and lined up to get the spindle in.....................I've seen them on bikes used for the TT where in a six lap race there are two pit stops and two rear wheel changes...............the wheel is changed long before the fuel is in.................quick fillers are banned at the TT

In fact a good mate of mine does the wheel changes for one of the top TT teams

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:13 pm
by skullie
so is a wise idea ?? given all your comments i do wonder ?

Re: looking for advice

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:06 pm
by Neosophist
I do wonder too.

I love the SS look of the RVF's / VFR's.

However, this was 20 years ago and since it hasn't been mass adopted I see two possible reasons.

1. It isn't as good as a conventional swining arm.
2. It is too expensive.

I have a VFR and a ZXR.. the VFR has to use a special paddock stand where as the ZXR just uses a convenitonal one.

Chain adjustment and wheel removal is easier but for the 5 minutes you save doing the job every so often is it worth the hassle if it isnt standard?

If your up for a challenge why not shoe-horn a little turbo or some fancy brakes / suspension into the bike instead ;)

Or get creative and stick a blade engine in there :excited