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Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:51 pm
by naurarwen
I got the question of:

A steering geometry check shows a motorcycles rake angle is incorrect. State two causes of this fault.

Any ideas??

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:56 pm
by superman
whats a rake angle??????????? i bet its somet like an impact/pot hole. thats a wild guess lol

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:58 pm
by naurarwen
basically the rake angle or castor angle is "the angular displacement from the vertical axis of the suspension of a motorcycle measured in the longitudial directection. It is the angle between the pivot line and vertical."

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:03 pm
by superman
Oh i C now i get it.







:smt017

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:18 pm
by masterofinsanity
head on impact could alter the geometry or a cracked headstock. basically its the angle of the forks from horizontal.

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:37 pm
by deviant
masterofinsanity wrote:basically its the angle of the forks from horizontal.
generally stated as an angle from vertical not horizontal, but yeah.

1) pot hole/crash/other impact leading to bent frame/yokes/forks

2) rear ride height is wrong (adjusted wrong, collapsed shock, anything like that. Even a flat tyre will change it slightly :smt002 )

3) forks are clamped at wrong height in yokes (lifting the forks through the yokes is a fairly common mod to speed up steering on slow steering bikes. reason it works is that it decreases the rake angle)

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:39 pm
by masterofinsanity
i knew it was either horizontal or vertical should have gone 50/50. :smt002

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:42 pm
by deviant
well i believe the zxr has a rake angle of 23.5 degrees.

If that was from the horizontal....hmm chopper anyone?

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:44 pm
by masterofinsanity
i was just trying to point out that it was the angle of the forks :smt019 :smt021

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:53 pm
by deviant
you mean you haven't memorised the rake angle of the ZXR400?

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:55 pm
by masterofinsanity
yes mate its 23.5 degrees :smt003

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:13 am
by Jamz
I was looking at a photo the other day from someone at work of their 1920's (I think) Norton, and commented that the rake angle was pretty extreme!

It's got to have been around the same as a ZXR - which was considered pretty extreme on a road bike until the last 5 years or so! No wonder the fkrs were so good in the TT races!

Re: Need alil help with college work.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:47 pm
by RedexRobB
But they were made of pig iron Jamz :smt003

Could also be a flat front tyre, tread has worn on either front or rear tyre. Rear ride height adjusted. The bike could be on a hill?