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Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:03 am
by Wabby
Right, I am going to do an oil and filter change for the decent weather.
What is the best oil to use? (I know it needs to be 10w40) - Would a Fuchs oil be best? Synthetic? Semi Synthetic?
And also, can the oil filter be removed and replaced by hand, or do I actually 'need' the oil filter tool?
Many thanks

Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:17 am
by cargo
Truth be told any good semi syn will do nicely
Oil filter will come off with careful use of a screwdriver and a hammer.
When you put the new one on smear some oil on the rubber seal and tighten it by hand as tight as you can
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:19 pm
by Scott221
The Oil filter should come off in your hand easy enough. Remeber though.
Righty tighty, lefty loosey!

Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:31 pm
by Caz
a good quality 10w40 semi synth will be just fine - I've got Castrol in my gixxer.
as Cargo says, smear a little oil on the o-ring seal on the oil filter when you fit the new one, and make sure that you dont over tighten the filter. Whenever I'e done mine, its come off in my hand just fine.
You should also fit a new sump washer, and dont over tighten the sump plug - 25Nm springs to mind, although I haven't checked - so don't quote me on that!
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:24 am
by Jamz
Caz wrote:a good quality 10w40 semi synth will be just fine - I've got Castrol in my gixxer.
as Cargo says, smear a little oil on the o-ring seal on the oil filter when you fit the new one, and make sure that you dont over tighten the filter. Whenever I'e done mine, its come off in my hand just fine.
You should also fit a new sump washer, and dont over tighten the sump plug - 25Nm springs to mind, although I haven't checked - so don't quote me on that!
I think the only filter that's ever come off by hand was the one that was unscrewing itself and pissing oil everywhere! Always smear the oil on... never works anyway...
Most of that's down to being able to get access to it - being a lazy barsket most times I turn up with scorching hot downpipes, whip one side panel off (if that), and try and get at it from there!

A proper filter tool is a great help, but most are a total rip-off that you can make yourself.
I also very rarely fit a new washer to the sump plug. This is the area you have to watch out for though - DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN THE SUMP PLUG! It will crack your sump.
Don't ask how I know.

Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:58 am
by masterofinsanity
simple oil filter tool with a chain should be enough, about £4 from Halfords.
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:14 am
by cargo
The smear of oil on the rubber seal helps get the filter tighened. I've never got one off by hand yet (except when the wife was away on a Saturday night).
I have a strap oil filter tool but ll it does is crush the filters.
If the tapping it round with a screw driver doesn't work I've been known to just stick the screw driver right through it and lever it off that way
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:30 pm
by stug
cargo wrote:
just stick the screw driver right through it and lever it off that way
Thats how I do it and it works, and you can save your £4 for something else
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:34 pm
by masterofinsanity
you're ok til you find the oil filter aint gonna unscrew and you just tear through the filter body.
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:36 pm
by Wabby
What sort of price should I be paying for some good oil then?
Local garage has both new pads and oil filter available to collect today, so gonna grab some oil while i'm there (If it aint too expensive) - He only stocks FUCHS oils and lubricants....
Cheers
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:37 pm
by stug
Hammer right through with the screwdriver and its always been fine for me.
Shims are in the post BTW
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:38 pm
by masterofinsanity
you might want to look at opieoils deals mate see if its any cheaper to buy the oil & filter but it will cost you a fiver as its only open to paid up OC members

still might work out cheaper?
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:43 pm
by Wabby
Filter (Can collect today) - £7.50
I just hope his oil is as cheap

Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:18 pm
by Caz
oil should be IRO £30 for 4 litres.
Re: Doing an oil and filter change...
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:53 am
by Wabby
It was Caz, for best quality stuff in the shop
