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Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:08 pm
by Fisher
Alright, I know what you are going to say.
Search the ******* forum!

But I have read the other posts, but they just confused me.
I have a fairly good understanding of engines, but only from what I have learnt out of experience.

I don't understand what you mean by shims, and I certainly am not used to dealing with rocker covers, carbs, and the like since my last bike was a single cylinder EFI 125.

Could someone please BRIEFLY explain what goes in to checking / adjusting the valve clearances on my bike?
I need to explain to the mechanic what it involves, so that I can get an accurate quote.
(He hasn't worked on this bike for a while...)

ALSO, how much would it normally cost to have it done?
How long does it take?

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:24 pm
by CaNsA
Fisher wrote:I need to explain to the mechanic what it involves, so that I can get an accurate quote.
Goto another mechanic.........

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:26 pm
by Fisher
He knows what he is doing, just not if he needs to remove the carbs and stuff...
Does 3 - 4 hours sound right?

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:31 pm
by cargo
The clearance you are checking is the gap between the rocker and the camshaft...............this gap is adjusted by changing the shim to one of a different size
Smaller shim gives a bigger clearance
bigger shim reduces the clearance


The clearance is there to allow for expansion due to heat

To check each clearance the engine needs to be in the right postion..........the manual explains this

To replace the shim again the engine needs to be in the same position as it is for meansuring that clearnace...........move the rocker arm to one side and remove/replace the shim and adjust the gap.............easy really.

This can be done with engine in frame. I prefer to remove the engine...............easier access and I nearly always have other tasks to perform at the same time

The actual measuring takes about 10 minutes.........the work and time comes in the striping stuff to get into the engine

I'd say I could do it with a stock road bike in an afternoon provided there were no additional problems


Oh and if you need to explain this to your mechanic...............I'd get your self a new one........cos the one you have is useless

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:32 pm
by cargo
CaNsA wrote:
Fisher wrote:I need to explain to the mechanic what it involves, so that I can get an accurate quote.
Goto another mechanic.........

Agreed

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:33 pm
by cargo
Fisher wrote:He knows what he is doing, just not if he needs to remove the carbs and stuff...
Does 3 - 4 hours sound right?

He is an idiot..................... I wouldn't let him near my bike and I'm talking about my mountain bike

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:52 pm
by Fisher
He knows how to DO the checking...
Just not what you need to remove to get access!

All bikes are different. I could just let him have at it, but I wouldn't know what to expect to have to pay at the end.
As you said, actually checking the clearances takes about 10 minutes. It's getting access that takes time.

The brief walk through was for MY benefit.

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:45 pm
by Tirpitz
Fisher wrote: The brief walk through was for MY benefit.
As you guessed yourself, search the forum. Mori Man has written a very good guide on here to doing valve clearances and if this is no good for you then there really isn't any point in anyone else repeating it.

Your mechanic should not be touching your bike without the relevant workshop manual. You can point him here if he wants it. That will tell him everything he needs to know. If it doesn't, go elsewhere.

You could save yourself a lot of money if you have a van by taking all the stuff off yourself and delivering the bike to him with rocker cover off. Then you will pay just for the valve clearances being done, minimum labour. Your labour is free.

Re: Checking / Adjusting Valve Clearances

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:48 pm
by Fisher
I did offer to take all the panels etc. off :P
May just consider the van though, that way I can take EVERYTHING off :)

Good shout!