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Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:25 pm
by masterofinsanity
following on from MMs valve clearance thread ........
Mori Man wrote:
If the exchange rate hadn't freakin collapsed so much i would of been happy to supply shims at cost to make a forum "Stash" . They only cost 704 Yen here which used to be under £3 but that's now £5.42
So,
Gather names up on who does their own servicing and rather than you all have a box of shims each, make a collective set. At times you'll need to top up the most popular sizes that are used and you'll end up with bundles of another size - can't be avoided!
But over all you should all save on servicing costs. You can make a rule that when you have the stash and after completing servicing you empty a particular size of shim you replace them with two the same size ensuring that when it's passed on there is always a full set of numbers.
From my own measurements it seems 2.90 , 2.95 & 3.00 are the most common so doing a group buy on a bundle of 2.85 & 3.05 might be helpful. In my shim box I already have a collection of 3.15 & 3.10 so expect these to be the growing number in your stash
Just a thought!
anyone interested in having a stash of shims for forum users ? i am happy to collect the shims if everyone wants to send me any unused spare ones?
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:23 pm
by stug
I have 2 spare, send me your address and I will post them on.
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:08 pm
by Jamz
It's an excellent idea as long as they fit the ZX9R!
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:14 pm
by masterofinsanity
Jamz wrote:It's an excellent idea as long as they fit the ZX9R!
would you believe they do?
what years your zx9? just checked and a 1997 uses the same shims.
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:22 pm
by Jamz
masterofinsanity wrote:Jamz wrote:It's an excellent idea as long as they fit the ZX9R!
would you believe they do?
what years your zx9? just checked and a 1997 uses the same shims.
If the '97 ones are the same then I'd expect all the B models from '94 to '98 to fit?
Mine's a '99 C2 so at least the '98 C1 models should fit, and possibly more.
A shim's only a little metal disk, though, so I should imagine a lot of them will be the same at least for Kwak's?
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:26 pm
by masterofinsanity
just checked C models use the same shims too mate
Re: Shimming
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:18 pm
by masterofinsanity
stug wrote:I have 2 spare, send me your address and I will post them on.
received mate! thanks for starting off the zxrworld shim collection, never seen one b4
thought someone had sent me some watch batteries
how do you know what size they are? i thought they were marked up?
Re: Shimming
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:30 pm
by stug
I should have written down the sizes.
The sizes wear off the shim so they need to be measured.
From what I received from Kawasaki there is only 2 numbers on the new shims with the numbers being the last 2
i.e a "295" is marked as "95"
Re: Shimming
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:33 pm
by masterofinsanity
not a problem i'll stick a vernier on them as they come in.thanks again mate.
Re: Shimming
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:36 am
by Mori Man
Done some digging so if you have the following bikes it's worth your while joining the collective as they all use the same shim - not a definitive list BTW, just when i was doing other bit's n bob's
ZRX400
ZXR750
ZZR400
ZZR600
ZX9R
ZX636
ZX6R
ZX7R
If for some reason your looking for smaller shims than normal then
ZXR250
These run from 1.2 ~ 2.4mm
Done a shim check on my ZRX400 today and only two clearances I was happy with the rest all need done - thankfully I have my wee stash from the ZXR motors so only need to buy 5. I do however have a pile of 3.0 and 3.1 so I might just send some over your way
Re: Shimming
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:45 am
by Mori Man
Can't go wrong with this price for shims, but still sensible to contribute to a stash
http://www.zoomfactory.co.uk/valve-shimming-info.asp
ZXR are 7.48mm in Diameter
Re: Shimming
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:55 am
by DannyMcCann
Even though it says KXF 250/450 they will work fine on a ZXR then? AFAIK shims were £10 each, and mine are as good as havent been done in the 21000 miles its covered
edit -
http://www.zoomfactory.co.uk/products.asp?cat=169 Will the top product be good as well then, as its still 7.48mm? I know I wouldnt need most of the sizes buts more for time cost of replacing them, obviously with them out of the engine I cant use the bike for work so if Ive got some ready in a box to replace after that can do the £3 each thing, or if the stash has the right sizes contribute to that
Re: Shimming
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:01 am
by masterofinsanity
what ?? you intend to raid my stash of 2 shims?
Re: Shimming
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:01 am
by Mori Man
DannyMcCann wrote:Even though it says KXF 250/450 they will work fine on a ZXR then? AFAIK shims were £10 each, and mine are as good as havent been done in the 21000 miles its covered
edit -
http://www.zoomfactory.co.uk/products.asp?cat=169 Will the top product be good as well then, as its still 7.48mm? I know I wouldnt need most of the sizes buts more for time cost of replacing them, obviously with them out of the engine I cant use the bike for work so if Ive got some ready in a box to replace after that can do the £3 each thing, or if the stash has the right sizes contribute to that
Yip it's fine that it says KXF they will still fit.
Box if it contains 82 shims works out at 95p each
But you will be left with so many that will never ever be used I would say keep clear.
Even if all 16 shims needed to be bought your only £48 but more likely than not you'll swap a bundle about and end up only needing to buy say 5 .
@ MOS , Will be buttoning up the SP motor soon and after that i'll send you out a bundle to increase your stash man
Re: Shimming
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:17 pm
by RedexRobB
Going by the shims i bought a few weeks back, the prices depended on thier sizes. That box of shims isnt bad value at all, but like you say, there will be sizes you'll never need.