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Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:51 pm
by Jeppo
Did a quick search but couldnt find what i was looking for!

There is far too much slack in my chain, it actually will touch the swingarm comfortably!! There are 2 more notches left on the adjustment thingy, but its looking a bit groggy, as is the rear sprocket, so i think all 3 need to be changed??

Is this an easy job? Do i need any special tools? i.e. one of those chain breaker kits? As reading the manual there is no mention of this...

I would most likely go for an O - ring chain, where do you lot source your C+S's from? Obviously don;t wanna skimp on these things, but I am a student after all - Beer or Bike that is the question :smt003

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:56 pm
by masterofinsanity
ok, you need to change all 3 in 1 go otherwise you are wasting your time. as your not a fully paid member to benefit from discounts :smt003 motorcycle products.com, wemoto, ebay, m&P, demon tweeks, busters etc etc etc and as for a special chain tool, no way, a pair of mole grips, ball pein hammer and a spare 6mm nut is all thats needed.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:55 pm
by zimm
and an angle grinder to cut through the old one :smt003


you may be lucky and find the chain on there has a spring clip, in which case its easy.. if you get a chain with a choice of spring clip and rivet link, fit the spring clip, then (if of a paranoid disposition) take it to a local bike mechanic type place and ask them nicely to fit the rivet link. Last time i did this they chucked me the chain breaker and told me to bring it back the next day = RESULT !

although, on the whole i trust spring clips, and have only ever had one fail when i was daft enough to run a worn renthal race chain dry on a long rideout (300 miles +), and even then it didnt cause an incident, the clip and plate just fell off whilst stationary at some traffic lights in Nottingham.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:59 pm
by masterofinsanity
get out !! spring clips shouldn't be used on anything above 125cc.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:21 am
by zimm
got one on mine now .. used 'em for years.

had a paranoid period after the race chain incident (was actually a series of incidents, lost half a dozen clips!) and rivet linked everything, but its a pain, and i'm back to not bothering again.

i've had chains snap, (and thats bloody scary at 100mph+) but its never been the spring clip thats gone (i normally forage them out of the fast lane whilst awaiting the AA, even re-fitted one with a spare spring clip i happened to have in my jacket.. so there were two of them in it)

though, i'd probably put a rivet link on the 600

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:24 am
by masterofinsanity
thats the difference between me and you and boyzone and mad max :smt003

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:27 am
by zimm
lol

I have no idea what you mean :smt017

I think i need more wine :excited

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:36 am
by masterofinsanity
lol i think i need more whisky who the f*ck is boyzone??

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:51 am
by zimm
masterofinsanity wrote:thats the difference between me and you and boyzone and mad max :smt003
your words not mine !

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:27 am
by deviant
I had a split link come out in France on the GPZ and result in a 400 mile round trip to get a new one, so my confidence in split links is a bit low at the moment. I've just changed the C&S on that one and rivetted it together (well, kinda - I did it with a hammer 'well enough' and rode it to work, I'm going to finish the job off at lunchtime with a mate's chain tool.

Changing the sprockets you just need a socket set - Think it's 8mm for the front one and 14 for the rear. Plus of course the tools/stand to get the rear wheel out.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:42 pm
by Jeppo
Right my D.I.D chain and sprockets turned up 2day.
Baz could i have a quick run down of how you replace the chain using the tools you mentioned earlier?
Cheers

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:09 pm
by masterofinsanity
easy mate pop your chain and sprockets on, stick the link in with the o-rings, pop the side plate on best you can then get a small nut big enough to go over the pins, 1 at at a time squeeze the sideplates together with mole grips over the end of 1 pin and the nut, do this alternating between pins to get the side plate on evenly until enough pin is showing through to pein it over with a hammer.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:59 pm
by Jeppo
Cheers mate, that sounds simple enough. Should the nut go over both pins, or just one at a time?
And also what does pein mean? lol.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:06 pm
by diesel
id assume it means to round the edges off so the plate doesnt slip off. like a mushroom.

Re: Chain and sprockets

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:24 pm
by masterofinsanity
yeah the nut goes over 1 pin at a time that means a small nut lol, and pein means to pein the rivet over to stop the sideplate comin off, use a ball pein hammer.