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looking at front upgrade and am wondering what "19x20" size is and more to point what is correct for zxr 400. cant find a mention of this number in manual.
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I'm not 100% sure, but i believe "19x20" means the bore of the cylinder (being 19mm) and the lever ratio (20), which on some models can be adjustable (18/20).
I believe the standard m/c has a 14mm bore? (again, not 100% sure). As for upgrades, it depends what its use will be and what calipers your using, i know a few people on here upgrade to a ZX7R m/c.
Obviously, the bigger bore the m/c, the more fluid it can shift, giving a better feel and stronger performance. I'm looking at upgrade options meself and to be fair, looks like i'm gona go with the ZX7R cylinder (just cant stretch to a Brembo :smt010 )
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I've got a ZX10R radial master cylinder on one of my bikes...................slightly tricky to fit cos the hoses and banjo bolt end up very close to the fork leg and it took a bit of fiddling round with the switch gear.......................... but works a treat with standard ZXR400 calipers
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Must admit i've thought about using a ZX10 m/c, thats another option if one comes along cheep enough. I thought about the 7R one mainly because of how cheep they are, can be had for like £30 on egay, where as the ZX10 eem to be nearer the £100 mark. Are the ZX10 cylinders all the same, or is there is 1 from a particular model that you would recomend?
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SOILZX wrote:Must admit i've thought about using a ZX10 m/c, thats another option if one comes along cheep enough. I thought about the 7R one mainly because of how cheep they are, can be had for like £30 on egay, where as the ZX10 eem to be nearer the £100 mark. Are the ZX10 cylinders all the same, or is there is 1 from a particular model that you would recomend?
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I've no idea what model ZX10R it came off I just saw it on ebay and bought it...................I think the problem with one off the 750 might just be that it would be older and have more wear/miles on it....................

Funnily enough I have a friend who raced a ZX10R and he hated the standard master cylinder and fitted a Brembo one.....................he said the seals leaked/passed and left him with no brake..........................................................I've had no such problem
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I have a mate who has a ZX10 on the road and he hated it aswell, so binned it favour of a Brembo, have asked if i can take it off his hands, but he wants to keep it for when he gets rid of the bike :smt009
If i can find 1 cheep enough, i think this could be a better option, as you say a 7r cylinder is more likey to have wear and tear, lets see what santa can fit through the letter box winks
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don't think the brembo will fit cos it hits the clocks, what's wrong with the original? zxr400 brakes IMO have always been mint!
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To be fair, the brakes on my first 1 seemed ok, the brakes on the 1 i've got now are shite!! I came across some freshly rebuilt 6 pots cheep, so thought i'd give them go (and i love the look of 6 pots!!)
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6 pots are shite mate!
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Had a set on my old gixxer srad and after a rebuild they were sound. I'll be keeping the standard calipers so if there shite, i'll rebuild the originals and slap them back on. Just see how it goes eh.
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Funnily enough I have a a standard master cylinder and caliper set up that sits in a box cos they are crap and all attempts to sort them have failed..................strange
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masterofinsanity wrote:6 pots are shite mate!
They really aren't. They're a bit tricky to bleed properly, which is why people give up with them and blame the calipers...
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well i have 6 pots on my TL and they have been complety rebuilt several times and are still crap, new m/c rebuild kit is next on the list.
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If you want better brakes, just bolt on some gixxer 6 k1/k2/k3 4 pots - absolutely AWESOME!
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forgot id even posted this and just had a read through, nicely poached!!!
am still looking around.
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