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Hi. quick one. what kind of travel should you be getting with the front brake lever? mine sucks and if i grab a handful i could nigh on get it to the bars. I have an old cb650 that moves half an inch and feels solid.


There are no leakes etc etc but i have bled the brakes. Maybe i didnt do it right??



Any ideas lads and lasses?

kwaks are known for soft brakes mate, unless you're prepared to replace the master cylinder for a larger one you aint gonna get em as good as your Cbs, a good strip and rebuild with new seals all round should help.if they pull back to the bars they will fail the MOT.

yea. i did strip em etc,cleaned em up, the seals were fine. i think its a gay bleeding sesh ive done on em. i was using a one way brake bleed valve and didnt go too well. i think ill change the hard tubing for softer clear stuff to make a better seal on the nipple.

i've heard people use ptfe tape on the bleed nipples too to stop amy leakages around the threads, might help?

The calipers are toad mate, thats the problem. Me and Gem have been battling the same issue for well over 6 months now. Gem replaced his MC with a brembo and is now braking like Rossi.

could be worn discs ?

could be not having bled them thoroughly, i've had a couple of sets of calipers which despite being bled/rebuilt always kept the pads too far from the disc at rest, so you always got a "long" lever as the pistons had to move miles. Worn discs cause the same thing.

the brakes on my race bike are nothing special (stock H calipers/discs/MC + braided lines and HH pads) and work perfect.

Scott221 wrote:The calipers are toad mate, thats the problem. Me and Gem have been battling the same issue for well over 6 months now. Gem replaced his MC with a brembo and is now braking like Rossi.

aftermarket posh job or an upgrade off another bike mate?

have a look on ebay for brembo master cylinders.

ok Baz. what do i need to look for exactly? i see some on E-Bay but fecked if i know what will work etc?


any hints?