High beam - its Gawwwwne !

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possibily, possibly not. you dont have many options.

i know for a fact on rovers, if the bulb for the battery symbol on the instrument panel has gone then the battery wont charge as the circuit will be broken.
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masterofinsanity wrote: if the high beam indicator light blows does this blow the high beam?
no it don't tried and tested.
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just put new bulbs in and still no main beam..........

if i disconnect the plug to the idiot lights i get a voltage at the main beam connector but as soon as i put a bulb in it disappears so wtf is going on? :smt013
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so with no bulb you have a voltage yet plug it in and its gone?

baffling me it is mate.
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tell me about it, spent 5 hours on it tonight, i don't particularly want to bodge it and wire straight from the switch to the lights but at this rate don't think i'm gonna have any choice.
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dont go straight from the switch, stick a relay inbetween and itll be fine.
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the original relay is working fine upto the switch but from the switch to the lights there is a problem somewhere?? :smt017
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relay comes after the switch or should do.
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so your saying i flick the main beam on and that sends power to the relay? which is how i read the wiring diagram, the red/black then generates the coil in the relay with the earth, this then connects the red/green live to the red/white which goes to the ignition switch which when on sends power out through the red/black to the main beam? i'm thinking the ignition switch is knackered? as the red/white doesn't seem to do anything in any position so maybe if i disconnect the red/white from the ignition and wire it direct to the red/black bypassing the ignition switch?


or have i got this totally wrong??? :smt017
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havent looked at the diagrams but a standard relay has 4 pins.

one is perm live, one is output, one is switched live and one is earth.

can switch the erath side instead and wire the 2 live inputs as perm lives if you want and use the switch to earth.
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have messed about with loads of the wiring and connectors and it seems to be working now, don't know wether it was a bad connection or the relay but fingers crossed when i get all the loom taped back up and the bike back together, cheers for your help rover220!!
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Re: High beam - its Gawwwwne !

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i would say its unlikely to be the wiring, its just a case of chasing the feed through the circuit till you lose it, cos between the buisness end of the fuse and the bulb there are a series of contacts and such which can go open circuit. especially if its a common fault between a few bikes.

if the indicator light bulb has blown, it shouldnt make a difference as it is fed parallel.

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i'm pretty sure now mine was a mixture of the headlamp relay and a flat battery, all sorted now tho
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Re: High beam - its Gawwwwne !

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I had a similar issue. My bikes sat for a bit and my dipped beam was fine, hi beam nothing, flash button not working and blue indicator on dash not working. I checked for continuity across the Hi/Low switch (r/bk and bl/y), between the r/bk wire from switch to the light relay, between r/w from light relay to igntion, and r/bk from ignition to bulbs and all ok. Bulbs and fuses all ok as well....

I left the battery on a charger for 2 days and they eventually started working fine. The first time I switched it, high beam didnt work. Then after a couple times flicking the switch between low and high with it sometimes working sometimes not, it eventually worked every time. Like you say guess it was a mix of a battery on the way out and the relay sticking a little because of being sat for a bit...?
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