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New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:47 pm
by Head-Down
hi, iv fitted a new engine to my mates bike, but it doesnt start. the starter works and its nearly ticking over, but somethings stopping it?? any one know what it might be???? any help would be great, thanks

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:52 pm
by rene
not much detail there..

best to start simple, Are you getting a spark? fuel?

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:52 pm
by masterofinsanity
are you saying its turning over but not firing? got fuel?

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:30 pm
by Head-Down
yer its turning over but not firing, and its got fuel.

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:37 pm
by rene
Are you getting a spark??

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:06 pm
by gubbs
You have probably put the HT leads in the wrong order.

Check ;)

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:19 pm
by Head-Down
yer im getting a spark on every lead, yer the HT leads are in the right order, does it make any difference that its a H model engine in an L model bike. cheers!

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:24 pm
by rene
shouldent no

Was the engine running before you fitted it?

If you are getting a spark, in the right order then it must be fuel (or theres some electrical fault)


are lights ect working? getting a good earth?

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:26 pm
by Head-Down
im positive the fuels working, and im getting lights, horn ect, could it maby the the spark plugs are shitty???

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:32 pm
by Northern ANdy
cant you use the plugs from the old engine?
Have you tried to blip the trottle while cranking?

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:34 pm
by masterofinsanity
i thought you had to change the cdi and loom to suit? ie h model cdi and loom for h model engine and l model cdi and loom for l model engine?

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:32 pm
by Lee
You don't have to swap the cdi unit over. I recently replaced my knachered L engine with an H one and the loom works fine with it.

But it took me forever to get the thing fired up and i almost lost hope and began to think the new engine was a dud. I flattened the battery 4 times trying to start it but it turned out that the carbs were bone dry and took all the cranking for the fuel pump to start pumping new fuel around and fill them back up. On the 5th go when the battery almost ran out of juice it sprang into life. Maybe you are in a smiliar position :smt017
Hope this sheds some light on it.

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:23 am
by rene
like i said IF your getting a spark at the plugs AND your getting fuel (not just to the carbs but into the cylindas as well) then theres no reason for the bike not to start

Unless little things like HT leed order ect

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:36 am
by Head-Down
finally fixed the problem, all we had to do was clean the spark plugs. once we had done that it started first time.the only thing i found that was different was a little nipple just under the carbsthat isnt there there on the H model but is on the L model. Thanks ALOT for all the help !!!!!!!!!! CHEERS!

Re: New Engine Fitted but doesnt start !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:44 am
by rene
told you to check the spark :smt016