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engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:51 am
by raul
hello guys'
i ride my bike daily and yesterday on the motorway i stopped for a coffee and fuel then my bike wouldn't start anymore.I put the ignition on (lights on oil and neutral ,side stand up) kill switch is on all the time ,and when you pres the starter button nothing happens not even a little noise a click nothing ,,, what can it be at fault ,or what should i check to eliminate things out to get to the problem?

ps-i did ride it Thur the bad weather could it be water got in somewhere? any advise much appreciated as i need my bike for Monday
-just forgot to say it will bump start with ease that's how i got home

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:04 am
by cargo
Have a look at the sidestand cut out switch it sounds like it is sticking

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:10 am
by lewisdale
check the connections on battery,solonoid,ans starter motor too,im sure its a bad connection somewhere, just wiggle all the plugs you can see lol

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:10 am
by RedexRobB
Sounds like the starter relay may have packed up. Short the terminals of the starter motor and it 'should' spin up and start. If it does then take a look at the relay. Theres a test in the manual that youll need a multimeter. I think there may be a fuse for it too, so might be worth checking.

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:22 am
by cargo
I'll bet my shirt it's the side stand switch

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:31 am
by RedexRobB
best way to check that will be to pull the clutch in and see if it starts then.

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:32 am
by RedexRobB
actually, if its in neutral (the light comes on he says) that shouldnt have any probs starting even if the stand switch is messing about, should it?

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:33 am
by raul
just had a try with the stand switch ,nothing the switch operates as normal is well greased and the return spring is strong ,so that's out
RedexRobB wrote:Sounds like the starter relay may have packed up. Short the terminals of the starter motor and it 'should' spin up and
start. If it does then take a look at the relay. Theres a test in the manual that youll need a multimeter. I think there may be a fuse for it too, so might be worth checking.
that was the first one in my mind i feared of (starter relay) i will look into it the evening , i hope is the fuse and i will check the switch gear as well ,you never know

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:42 pm
by gasman
do you get a click from the juntion box fitted above battery when you press the start button?

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:50 pm
by Davw
Either battery is knackered (very cold weather) or the starter relay/ solenoid/ fuse is gone.

Try with jump leads from a car and if that doesnt work then the starter circuit needs checking

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:08 am
by masterofinsanity
gasman wrote:do you get a click from the juntion box fitted above battery when you press the start button?
was gonna say the same, you should get a click from the junction box.

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:54 am
by raul
no click at the fuse box

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:09 pm
by masterofinsanity
take the fusebox apart and break the casing on the relay, then connect it up and see if it clicks when you press the starter, it may need the tab bending a bit.

see here for pics

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=7103

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:37 pm
by raul
right i got as far as u said above but not sure what needs bending ;is that the bit above the relay coil witch moves up and down like a spring tipe?

Re: engine wont start -please help

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:26 pm
by raul
OK now i get a click from the solenoid(behind the battery) everytime i put the ignition on , assume that's working, but nothing on the fuse box relay, i also left the battery(2months old) on optimax and is all good ,

dam electrics