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Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:51 am

Most of you will most likely use or have used ZX10/6-R stick coils but the install is still the same as this.

I have used CBR600RR 07~09 Stick coils , part number 30700-MEE-641

These are a perfect fit into the spark plug chamber ,I applied a small smear of silicone grease onto the sealing "O" rings at the top of them and gave them a gentle twisting action to get them to fully seat.
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The stick coils have a special water proof connector - you could buy the separate spades to make up your own loom but personally I recommend you source the original parts for the coils your using. So with that in mind i bought a new sub loom , part number 32103-MFJ-D00
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Now take your perfectly good loom and strip all the insulation off and on mine I needed to chop this block connector off too
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With the loom exposed you need to then wire them up like this diagram , this loom also had additional patch leads on it which I removed
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With the new loom made and spade connectors attached for plugging into your bikes loom I recommend you do the install next before you seal it up with insulation and / or armour. That way you can ensure the leads are long enough and it actually works. When I made mine up I thought the leads for the 1 & 4 were too short so I extended them but turns out they would have been OK as is.
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You can see i left the coils in place for the photo, I actually disconnected 1 & 4 first and fired the bike up running just two stick coils fitted. Then put in the other two and plugged them in and fired it up again - everything was perfect.
This photo shows you how the leads run into number two coil and it bridges into number three with it doing a return back into the Red on the main loom.
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Everything running right , remove the coils and suddenly you've got oodles of space - time to get my F3 ram box hunted out !
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Buttoned everything back up and took it for a spin, initial report:

Effortless starting
Crisp throttle response
Very smooth in traffic running
stable tick over

From what I have read (this was on a fully tuned engine) overall power is up - the curve followed the original a ball hair higher with a 1 BHP gain on the top. Another apparent benefit is better MPG too.

Mod Time:
Making the loom around 40mins
Installing the coils and plugging them in 5 mins

Very nice mod and has to be one of the simplest and quickest I've ever done.

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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:53 pm

What a sweet setup. I'm off down the Honda Centre to price the bits up!! :smt002


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:02 pm

Fook me, these bits aren't cheep!! £65.17 each for the coil sticks and £85.30 for the loom shocking
Think i'll be trying to hunt down bits from a breakers!!


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:59 am

SOILZX wrote:Fook me, these bits aren't cheep!! £65.17 each for the coil sticks and £85.30 for the loom shocking
Think i'll be trying to hunt down bits from a breakers!!
Got my coils from a breaker so were about £25 for the 4 delivered - they are £26.45 each here new so that's a tidy mark up on them in the UK :smt011 and the loom was a wee bit more at £27 so that's a fookin shocking price on that ! Unless your talking Kwak parts ?


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Post by Mori Man » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:13 am

here's the numbers for the Kwak parts:

ZX6 coils: 21171-1282 = 9,135 Yen so about £62

Z1000 coils: 21171-0028 = 7,613 Yen so about £51 (also used in ZX12)

ZX12 sub harness: 26031-0137 = 18,144 Yen so about £122 shocking shocking

Z1000 sub harness: 26031-0541 = 6,048 Yen so about £41


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:43 am

Thats for the Honda parts!! I get on realy well with them all at my local Honda. The parts lad said everyone has just put all there prices up (Suzuki have just prices up by 30%!!!!, i priced the pad pins for K1 thou Tokico 6 pots, £18 each +vat!!!!!!)


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:04 pm

Can get you stainless with stainless R clip for about half that ! Got them in my 6 pots and the ZXR callipers too. That's for a pair !!


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by cargo » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:46 pm

Probolt do caliper pins I got some very lovely titainium ones for my ZX6 from them they have a 8mm hex head and are pre drilled for lock wiring.



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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Davw » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:09 pm

Stick coils and the loom/ stick connectors come up from time to time on flee-bay with BIN prices around £40.


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:22 pm

Ye, getting pins from probolt, there £16 a pair list price, but it just so happens that a friend has a trade account with them, so he gets a nice discount (M8 caliper mounting bolts in titanium were £20 for 4, think list price was about £35 for the 4)


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by cargo » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:42 pm

There a good selection on stick coils on ebay..................but what will fit...................clearly CBR600RR ones will but what others ?
I've found some ZX6J ones for £37 delivered.......................but will they do the job ?. I know they have a different part number from ZX6RR ones..................been digging throught parts microfiches

I will try the ZX6RR ones from my ZX6 and see if they fit..................



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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:35 pm

Cheers for the links Mori Man, that's me sorted for a set now :smt003


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:42 am

Sticks and loom turned up today, so will get on it A.S.A.P :smt003


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Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:20 pm

SOILZX wrote:Sticks and loom turned up today, so will get on it A.S.A.P :smt003
Freakin 'ell , you live next door to them ! :smt005


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