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banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:32 am
by banner001
...well i hasten to call it a "bike".

one of the lads i hang around with, his son turns 16 next september 1st, so he is gonna get his CBT (already got a little 50cc) and we are gonna have a blast over to the welsh coastline and take the piss on these little things...personally im gonna take my airsoft gun and see how long before the police stop me for having it strapped to my leg :D

i might have to make a swivel mount for the front of the bike to hold it on, complete with WWI style gun-sight :D

its a malaguti phantom F12 with a 70cc kit and 19mm racing carb, needs the idle adjusting, and probably a damn good clean, but its MOT ready and got 6 months tax already, and whats the insurance gonna be...£30 maybe?

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oh yeah, you know you want one!

Re: banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:43 am
by ross46
Oh no not a 70 kit, loads of people did it at school 18/23 blew up while in their ownership, peds just dont like them, though it was a great laugh when I had one

Re: banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:16 pm
by banner001
ill probably put it back to standard, its only £40 for a complete top end...bargain :D

i might even use it over winter to get it run in and to save me from using the zxr...who cares if you crash a scooter? and the mpg will be fantastic :D

EDIT:
The malaguti phantom F12 scooter is working now...its a bit of a "beast" even though it looks like a spidery bag of turds, its got a malossi 70cc kit, 19mm polini carb with 110 main jet, random de-restricted racing exhaust, carbon reeds, straight through pod filter, 4.8g rollers in a malossi engine variator (washer removed) with harder malossi white clutch variator spring.

top speed is now a GPS measured 56mph with my head down and the lights turned off, its about 54mph under normal riding conditions...gonna try to get it hit a genuine 60mph for our trip in september.

Re: banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:03 am
by ross46
70 miles to 5 litres of fuel with rings blowing by on mine

banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:10 pm
by ross46
with a 70cc kit you should easily be getting 60, my old moped (honda x8r-s) hit 53 with nothing but a derestricted cdi and a variator kit and the rings were blowing by badly, still have the piston!

banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:45 pm
by kawazonkey
Love this build...and my old Honda SS50 with a C70 head and barrel would hit 60 no probs!

banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:48 am
by banner001
when it does 56mph on the GPS, the speedometer is reading 64mph, so it easily hits 60 on the dash...but thats not true ground speed :D

banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:47 pm
by ross46
Mine was gps tracked at 53 and hit 57 on the dash still at 50cc, you sorted the variator?

banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:53 pm
by banner001
im gonna move these into a scooter thread i think :D

good news everybody! i got my 8 ton crimper for the battery terminals, fresh petrol, and it fired into life at the first push of the button! all stick coils workingwell, and firing on all cylinders. just got a few bits and pieces to fabricate, then it can go on the road and finish its run-in period...getting closer to being presentable now :D

Re: banners "bike" number 4...

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:49 pm
by banner001
as far as i can tell, im keeping the revs about the same as the scooter was pre-70 kit, so as the variator ratios are roughly the same as before (its just got more acceleration) i wont see an increase in speed inless i do one of 2 things - increase the rpm, gear up the bike.

the malossi 70 kit is the shittiest cheapest one they do, i would estimate its putting out about 6-7hp, with a better kit and the correct exhaust for the port timings i would think i could get it up to 10hp...but i dont know if i wanna spend the money, as you are looking at £200 for a quality barrel/exhaust combination, and then it would probably warrant a few other uprated bits and pieces taking it to £400...its not a lot of money, but thats almost the cost of a new nitron racing shock for the thou...

and it will still look and sound awful :D