Is it asking too much

[mongo]

Keep the forum going, ofcourse things will happen, moderators overstepping the mark, forum posters overstepping the mark, its human nature, exagerated even more by bravado at sitting infront of a computer screen - knowing you wont get decked in the face for overstepping the mark

There is a wealth of knowledge within the forum posts. I was a member even before my current account was created, and as the bikes are still popular even today it benefits zxr 400 owners.

[AndyJak]

So you see Masterofinsanity, there are good guys on here and they far out weigh the small penis idiots that frequent every forum. So keep up the good work and keep the site going.

ps, have you noticed that none of the usual throbbers (the small penis brigade) that jump on members posts etc are no where to be seen on this thread?

[Rasta-ninja]

Without a doubt keep the forum going!!!! It is more than a little annoying to say the least when you do get your "head bitten off" for asking "stupid questions" when this is something you want to learn. Im guilty of asking what seem like stupid questions, and after doing a lot of work with bikes the past year they do seem a little silly to me now. However i think the reason these stupid questions arise is because a lot of people (myself included) don't want to do any kind of work on the bike without knowing exactly what they're doing as to not make it worse. Also because they may feel that people with knowledge on the site might know certain sites or places where parts are cheaper but just as good a quality as Cradley. Why is it so hard for some people to understand that a lot of us are new to these things, if someone asked me for help i'd feel privileged!!! not slant them for not knowing something simple. I do understand however you will have to put up with a little Sh*t now and then but this is life afterall....

[dangerfield]

Keep it going but please don't respond to every post with 'use the feckin search' as some people like a little bit of human (ish) interaction, if we didn't we would buy a manual.

I've yet to get myself a bike and i'm constantly being talked out of a zxr 400 but it's what i want and i think i'll need somewhere to go when i have issues.

PS Anyone in the Nottingham area got one i can have a sit on and try? Bit of a short butt and worried that they might not be suitable.

[cargo]

great so see so many folks putting their hand up and supporting the site.

In this new found era of super duper friendly touchy feely lets help everyone not matter how undeserving...........perhaps you could all get stuck into this little lot


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[Davw]

I havent posted much recently but for me this site is an inspiration. We are using the same platform (based on the idea that zxrworld gave us) to develop an internet site for all of our global site supervisors to share knowledge and experience- in a Company with 15,000 employees spread across the globe.

So - my view is this. It would be a real shame to see the site close but I do feel a bit guilty that the considerable effort put into running it by Baz (and others) is not shared out more. I have no idea how the costs are managed and who pays for what. For me I would be more than happy to pay a small annual sub for access to the site - it would make me feel a bit better about using it.

The site has been a great technical help to me and occaissionally a source of amusement (at the keyboard wars). Keep the site - please.

[cargo]

Charging a for everyone has killed off other sites that I've been a forum member of or at least reduced them to a select few friends......................


Far better if a few more forum members just used the donate button here

http://www.zxrworld.co.uk/zxr400/donate.html

Form an orderly queue please

[Deswilkie]

Masterofinsanity; This site is an excellent source of information for these wee bikes. As the numbers of them still on the road and track continually diminish and fade to almost classic status this site still serves as a valuable repository for information in supporting the numbers left.

I pop on to the site occasionally for a look and answer what I can when queries appear. I don't get upset if someone asks what some may view as a stupid question and instead try and steer them in the right direction (what's the point in getting upset?). I have noticed an unhelpful ignorance from some on this site but it's the internet and does accommodate those that would otherwise scream in to the wind if they didn't have a keyboard to sound their opinions.

My wee race bike is still running (and with many mods) thanks to the many build threads and others asking questions on this site. So please keep up the good work. Thank you.

Also, have a wee look at Google ads as a potential revenue stream to help the development of the site.

[400y]

Its a great site and the forum is full of interesting threads and very beneficial ones too.

Pity more people don't donate a few £ to the site as I am sure the advice they have gotten has saved them loads of quid.


Keep up the good work and never mind the Grumpy Ole Men


I would have been even more lost with my 400 if I hadnt found this site. Excellent work please keep it going.


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[richr]

I would like to see the site continue in its current form.

I would also like to see users dip their hands in their pockets, ok, pay pal and make a donation to help with running costs etc as just one or two bits of info taken from here will probably save you a lot more money than a bike shop will charge you.

I am not connected in any way to the forum, with regard to the above, just my humble opinion.

As for some of the sarky comments maybe some people should just step back and think for a few minutes before posting what appears to be dumb questions for example "where do i buy a throttle cable from" as common sense would point you in the correct direction maybe?

I do hope the forum continues well into the future.

regards Rich

[Tirpitz]

I use a few bike forums (under different logins) and TBH I wouldn't be that bothered if they shut down, they have their uses but.....meh. But this marque-specific one is rather special and I would miss it if it wasn't here. I've found a lot of information on here which has been invaluable in encouraging me to do jobs I would otherwise have been scared to do myself, and also pointers to suppliers etc. which have saved me a lot of money.

I have noticed an increasingly aggressive edge creeping in which is not very welcome. It is, of course, frustrating when seemingly daft questions get asked and especially when people take little effort to explain themselves. As I come from Yorkshire I can tend to be a bit blunt but I hope that my own posts haven't unduly upset anyone. I've never responded by just abusing anyone and I have always tried to actually help, or point out that someone is making a bad mistake etc.. If that's my opinion I reserve the right to state it but I like to think that I always post in a way that I would be comfortable in saying directly to someone's face. The trouble with the internet is that the humour you can inject in person often doesn't come across on the screen, so what would be a bit of friendly pisstaking in the flesh can seem rude from behind a keyboard if you're not careful. Whilst some posters do need to tone it down a bit, others also need grow up a touch and grow a thicker skin. People into bikes do tend to be a bit plain speaking on the whole and if you're the type that gets upset too easily then a forum full of hairy-arsed bikers might not be the best place to step into. Moderation and give and take are probably what's needed all round. Personally I find those forums where people are afraid to speak their minds for fear of causing offence to be a bit too much like some bullshit company intranet where you get grassed up for being non-PC and I'd prefer this forum not to become so sugary-sweet.

Personally I don't find it too difficult to read between the lines and spot the person who is keen to learn but a bit naive and deserves some help, and the lazy person who isn't even making an effort. I do try to help the former but the latter I ignore - but that's what I would do in real life too, I have a low pillock-threshold in the flesh. All people have to do is make a bit of effort to try and get the answer they're looking for before posting up for further guidance. I think it's better if you can't be arsed to not be arsed, rather than wading in to the verbal attack.

People should certainly understand that this place is just like a car park. Just because some bloke who's there every week tells you something about your bike doesn't mean it's right. Certainly listen to him but also listen to the several other opinions you get. Pool them all together, engage in conversation, then go away with the info and work with it. You're still going to have to do some work yourself, people on here are not gods, they're just blokes with bikes like you. They may have the answer to your problem but they may also be completely wrong.

My hopes for the future are that the site picks up a bit as it has definitely got quieter this year. Without suggesting we all start bumming each other some people could maybe get a bit more fluffy. It would also be nice if more people would post up information as well as questions - what have you done that has worked, what hasn't, what have you found that's cheap, what's too expensive etc? Give something back and add to the knowledge pool and start some interesting threads of your own. And it would also be more helpful if people came back after finding a solution to tell everyone what worked / what didn't. That might save future posters asking the same thing, too many 'problem' threads just tail off inconclusively.

Oh yeah, and maybe a few more people could bung MoI a few quid, this place doesn't run on fresh air.

[beermaker]

Sage words from a fellow Yorkshireman Tirpitz

[sjonesuk]

Hey guys,

I'm new here and the last thing I want to do is upset anybody...

But my impression of a forum is that people are supposed to help each other, by choice. Surely if you weren't here to answer simple questions, moderator or not, you would just choose not to answer them? I'm sure you appreciate that a lot of people would have come here, like me, because they're new to it all and need a helping hand. First with the simple things, then with more complex matters. We all have to start somewhere.

I'll shut up in a minute...

But anyway, my point is, I quite like this forum! Most people seem friendly, genuinely willing to help and it would be a shame to see it go if that's what you were thinking of. I hope to make some good friends with my fellow ZXR owners!

=)

[masterofinsanity]

appreciate all the comments and its comments like these that make me have second thoughts about closing it, i suppose for every idiot there are hundreds of genuine members out there, i'm probably to blame myself for the forum going sideways rather than forward for not spending as much time as i should on here but i know there is a great team behind me who have kept it on the straight and narrow. appreciate all the comments!

great so see so many folks putting their hand up and supporting the site.

In this new found era of super duper friendly touchy feely lets help everyone not matter how undeserving...........perhaps you could all get stuck into this little lot


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[R P Corse]

first time i have logged in properly for a while, i really should make more effort but from what some others have said, im pretty much in the same boat as them - saying something and getting head bitten off, it does put you off a touch when this is meant to be a friendly community!

i have to agree with a lot of the members, this site is great for information on the 400's, i dont think there is another site out there with as much information, albeit most info is for the L models, but hey ho its a start!

i know i have posted up some stupidity on here but coming straight off 2 strokes for the last 6years of riding, 4strokes are completely new to me (even though i bought a H2 a few years ago, i just couldnt get my head round why it wouldnt work!) now have a H1 and have had the engine stripped and learnt a lot by getting info from this site, and a lot of help from Mori-Man too - that man is GOD!

this is a small group of bikers on small bikes that are getting rarer and rarer, so in a way its kinda up to us to keep this place going so we can get these bikes to the best we possibly can! and we need to stay pretty civil with eachother as to not scare people off otherwise this will go to the dogs!

keep the site going!