Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

This forum is for informative threads, if you feel a topic should be in here then let us know and we will move it.

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man »

Most of you will most likely use or have used ZX10/6-R stick coils but the install is still the same as this.

I have used CBR600RR 07~09 Stick coils , part number 30700-MEE-641

These are a perfect fit into the spark plug chamber ,I applied a small smear of silicone grease onto the sealing "O" rings at the top of them and gave them a gentle twisting action to get them to fully seat.
P1190259.jpg
The stick coils have a special water proof connector - you could buy the separate spades to make up your own loom but personally I recommend you source the original parts for the coils your using. So with that in mind i bought a new sub loom , part number 32103-MFJ-D00
P1190256.jpg
Now take your perfectly good loom and strip all the insulation off and on mine I needed to chop this block connector off too
P1190258.jpg
With the loom exposed you need to then wire them up like this diagram , this loom also had additional patch leads on it which I removed
ZX-11CoilStickWiring.jpg
With the new loom made and spade connectors attached for plugging into your bikes loom I recommend you do the install next before you seal it up with insulation and / or armour. That way you can ensure the leads are long enough and it actually works. When I made mine up I thought the leads for the 1 & 4 were too short so I extended them but turns out they would have been OK as is.
P1190260.jpg
You can see i left the coils in place for the photo, I actually disconnected 1 & 4 first and fired the bike up running just two stick coils fitted. Then put in the other two and plugged them in and fired it up again - everything was perfect.
This photo shows you how the leads run into number two coil and it bridges into number three with it doing a return back into the Red on the main loom.
P1190261.jpg
Everything running right , remove the coils and suddenly you've got oodles of space - time to get my F3 ram box hunted out !
P1190264.jpg
Buttoned everything back up and took it for a spin, initial report:

Effortless starting
Crisp throttle response
Very smooth in traffic running
stable tick over

From what I have read (this was on a fully tuned engine) overall power is up - the curve followed the original a ball hair higher with a 1 BHP gain on the top. Another apparent benefit is better MPG too.

Mod Time:
Making the loom around 40mins
Installing the coils and plugging them in 5 mins

Very nice mod and has to be one of the simplest and quickest I've ever done.

MM!
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

What a sweet setup. I'm off down the Honda Centre to price the bits up!! :smt002
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

Fook me, these bits aren't cheep!! £65.17 each for the coil sticks and £85.30 for the loom shocking
Think i'll be trying to hunt down bits from a breakers!!
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man »

SOILZX wrote:Fook me, these bits aren't cheep!! £65.17 each for the coil sticks and £85.30 for the loom shocking
Think i'll be trying to hunt down bits from a breakers!!
Got my coils from a breaker so were about £25 for the 4 delivered - they are £26.45 each here new so that's a tidy mark up on them in the UK :smt011 and the loom was a wee bit more at £27 so that's a fookin shocking price on that ! Unless your talking Kwak parts ?
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Kawasaki Parts

Post by Mori Man »

here's the numbers for the Kwak parts:

ZX6 coils: 21171-1282 = 9,135 Yen so about £62

Z1000 coils: 21171-0028 = 7,613 Yen so about £51 (also used in ZX12)

ZX12 sub harness: 26031-0137 = 18,144 Yen so about £122 shocking shocking

Z1000 sub harness: 26031-0541 = 6,048 Yen so about £41
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

Thats for the Honda parts!! I get on realy well with them all at my local Honda. The parts lad said everyone has just put all there prices up (Suzuki have just prices up by 30%!!!!, i priced the pad pins for K1 thou Tokico 6 pots, £18 each +vat!!!!!!)
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man »

Can get you stainless with stainless R clip for about half that ! Got them in my 6 pots and the ZXR callipers too. That's for a pair !!
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
cargo
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 3341
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:33 am
My Bike: tomos moped
Location: Carrickfergus Northern Ireland

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by cargo »

Probolt do caliper pins I got some very lovely titainium ones for my ZX6 from them they have a 8mm hex head and are pre drilled for lock wiring.
Davw
L-plate hell
L-plate hell
Posts: 472
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:25 pm
My Bike: zxr400 track, vfr800 road
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Davw »

Stick coils and the loom/ stick connectors come up from time to time on flee-bay with BIN prices around £40.
Fatspanner Racing/[/size][/color]
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

Ye, getting pins from probolt, there £16 a pair list price, but it just so happens that a friend has a trade account with them, so he gets a nice discount (M8 caliper mounting bolts in titanium were £20 for 4, think list price was about £35 for the 4)
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
cargo
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 3341
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:33 am
My Bike: tomos moped
Location: Carrickfergus Northern Ireland

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by cargo »

There a good selection on stick coils on ebay..................but what will fit...................clearly CBR600RR ones will but what others ?
I've found some ZX6J ones for £37 delivered.......................but will they do the job ?. I know they have a different part number from ZX6RR ones..................been digging throught parts microfiches

I will try the ZX6RR ones from my ZX6 and see if they fit..................
User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man »

Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

Cheers for the links Mori Man, that's me sorted for a set now :smt003
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
SOILZX
zxr400 oc member
zxr400 oc member
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 6:13 pm
My Bike: zxr 400
Location: SHREWSBURY

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by SOILZX »

Sticks and loom turned up today, so will get on it A.S.A.P :smt003
I BRAKE FOR CAKE!!
Definitive mechanics toolkit: A hammer and a condom,
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, f*** it!!
User avatar
Mori Man
Blingmeister
Blingmeister
Posts: 1976
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 3:30 pm
My Bike: ZXR400J2
Location: JAPAN

Re: Stick Coil Mod - a how too , I hope !

Post by Mori Man »

SOILZX wrote:Sticks and loom turned up today, so will get on it A.S.A.P :smt003
Freakin 'ell , you live next door to them ! :smt005
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
Living life on the edge, SuPposedly
Post Reply