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hey what a joy , after cleaning the start switch , and a bit of wd40 on it I'm back in business , the little cooper hat on top of the spring was black cleaned that and the spring as well as the contacts put it all back together and fired up

thank you everyone for your effort and your input

raul wrote:right i got as far as u said above but not sure what needs bending ;is that the bit above the relay coil witch moves up and down like a spring tipe?

thats the one.

looks like cargo owes us his shirt then

This happened to me only the other day and it was the starter switch.