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Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:52 am
by rene
people give 2t a hard time for being unreliable and expensive tbh most of the time its down to poor maintenace. If you keep on top of it then there fine.
If you buy a low powered 2t then there far more reliable than a 4t in all aspects.
Even if they do blow up its the same price as a Major service on a 4t to get the engine rebuilt! If you do it yourself even less!
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:54 am
by rene
deviant wrote:bearing in mind the top end only consists of a couple of parts (bizarre powervalves aside), I bet I could do a top end rebuild with my eyes closed, and I've never had a 2T bike.
Top end rebuilt is as simple as unbolts the head, remove the barrel, check conrod for play new pistion and rings, rebore and plate barrel, bolt back togeather and your done.
I havent had a bottom end go yet and they look quite hard but id give it a bash.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:08 pm
by zimm
bottom end is almost as easy mate .. pull it apart, throw crank away or give to someone with BIG tools (model dependant) rebuild with new seals..
whats tricky is getting them spot on... far larger margin for error with a 4 stroke.. they can run like shite for ages and not eat themselves, a slightly wrong stroker will be either crap/unrideably peaky/melted.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:25 pm
by deviant
rene wrote:
I havent had a bottom end go yet and they look quite hard but id give it a bash.
I have had (non bike) 2T's in pieces and the only difficult thing about the bottom end is not dropping any of the big eng rollers into places you can't get them back from.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:16 pm
by rene
from what i've herd is hard is the same as zimm, getting the crank spot on. Also herd that the crank can be a bitch to remove (need a crank press).
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:28 pm
by zimm
still want one though....
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:37 pm
by deviant
I know someone who's just bought an NSR250 MC28 - single sided swinger, credit card ignition, etc.
If there is such a thing as 2T porn, that bike is it.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:17 pm
by Mori Man
Sent out a few of those Yam' engines and love the engineering making the exhausts flow out the back
Aprillia RS's can be tuned to 70PS so about 65 ish BHP - thing is I've also sent out a ween of RS swingers, frames and USD's and that stuff ain't light. making a Yamagamma is a better proposition but i believe the RS's will out handle their power due to the over engineering. Aprillia gear for the RS is very good and makes Ducati stuff look cheap.
The NS250MC28 with "credit card" ignition is nice more so the SP model with Magtek wheels

(Almost fitted a set to my 400 but they have Honda stamped on them

) . Have sent a few modules out with "HRC" cards to make them full power fo the track

They come in "Rain" , "AVgas" and "Full" versions.
From modern "stinkers" it would be an RS for me

Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:26 pm
by ZXR..Al
My old bike...TZR250 3ma....
Bought it for £450 did the fork seals and MOT'd it and sold it for £1200...wish i'd kept it now
Al
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:41 pm
by RedexRobB
I used to have an NS125F
Never, ever, again will i have a 2 stroke after that bike. Considered an NSR400 and an RGV250 before i totally went off of two strokes.
Not my bike by the way, just a pic i found.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:41 am
by crushedlizard
RedexRobB wrote:Never, ever, again will i have a 2 stroke after that bike.
Should've owned one of these. They're common for a reason...
(I mean the RS not the Daihatsu Terios

)
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:47 am
by zimm
ZXR..Al wrote:My old bike...TZR250 3ma....
Bought it for £450 did the fork seals and MOT'd it and sold it for £1200...wish i'd kept it now
Al
how was it ? im seriously considering buying one and could use some pointers.
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:55 am
by RedexRobB
crushedlizard wrote:RedexRobB wrote:Never, ever, again will i have a 2 stroke after that bike.
Should've owned one of these. They're common for a reason...

Maybe i would have, but when i had that NS125 i was 17 and the RS hadnt been out long, so it was way out of my budget. I think they 4 grand brand new and the 250 nearer 6 grand!
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:58 am
by Gemini
my rs was just like this...
gem
Re: 2 stroke porn
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:54 pm
by ZXR..Al
zimm wrote:ZXR..Al wrote:My old bike...TZR250 3ma....
Bought it for £450 did the fork seals and MOT'd it and sold it for £1200...wish i'd kept it now
Al
how was it ? im seriously considering buying one and could use some pointers.
Absolutely fantastic...not much below 6,000 but then took off like a rocket and was the best handling bike i have ever owned
...reliable too.I'd say if u can get hold of one cheap enough then go for it
Al