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time for a change?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:25 am
by lucky77
How many of you use the "proper" race change set up, as in down to go up throught eh gears and vice versa? I understand where it comes from as in hooking a gear in road config can be troublesome if cranked over on a sweeping lefthander, but i have only ever found that to be a problem at starkeys at donnington, and just rode around it by short shifting. However, some fella was telling me at the weekend (theres always one in the paddock) that race config does save a second or two a lap over road config. anybody tried it and saw their lap times tumble, or tried it and didnt like it due to the brain ache of riding on the road as well?

Cheers.

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:30 am
by cargo
Tried it and hated it.
Only ever found one corner where it was a problem with road stylee.

I dont believe it makes much if any difference to lap times....................lots of guys using quickshifters nowdays.............. hate them too.

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:47 pm
by -GQ-
I use road shift.

Can't see how race shift can save a second. Maybe the guy just gained time at some track and it happened to be the weekend he used race shift for the first time.

Hang on. That must mean that, since I improved my best Oulton time last Saturday just after lunch by a second, that Southern Fried chicken, rice and peas can gain you a second a lap!

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:28 pm
by lucky77
i know that pies slow you down by a couple of seconds a lap. Or maybe its the chips. Or chinese. Either way, it makes me slower every meeting. :smt003

Cargo, does that mean you have got a sparkly quickshifter you want to sell cheap as you dont like em? :excited

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:07 pm
by Alan P
lucky77 wrote:race config does save a second or two a lap over road config. Cheers.
No that really is a load of bollox :pmsl At best you could argue it might save you a fraction of a second at certain circuits (you mention Donny and arguably that's one of them, but then short sifting at a corner such as that might actually be better as you get better drive off the torque).

Road shift is all I've ever run and I rarley find it an issue. As for quickshifters, I've fitted one this year as I seemed to be getting a bit lazy with my gearshifts last year. I went quicker at Oulton today, but I wouldn't put that down to the quickshifter in any way, just tried harder.

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:29 am
by zimm
tried it.. confused me .. changed back before i blew the engine.

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:07 am
by cargo
zimm wrote:tried it.. confused me .. changed back before i blew the engine.

my thoughts exactly....................it was hard to get over 15 years of riding a road bike out of my head.


@ lucky 77..............I'll certainly sell my quickshift if you want it it plugged into a box on my zx6 which I'm not certain about removing...............but you can certainly have the quickshifter itself......................................no idea as to the make or quaility but it's an EX Nick Morgan bike it's come off..................PM me................ I'll get a photo later

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:58 pm
by jake
Alan P wrote:
lucky77 wrote:race config does save a second or two a lap over road config. Cheers.
No that really is a load of bollox :pmsl At best you could argue it might save you a fraction of a second at certain circuits (you mention Donny and arguably that's one of them, but then short sifting at a corner such as that might actually be better as you get better drive off the torque).

Road shift is all I've ever run and I rarley find it an issue. As for quickshifters, I've fitted one this year as I seemed to be getting a bit lazy with my gearshifts last year. I went quicker at Oulton today, but I wouldn't put that down to the quickshifter in any way, just tried harder.

1.51.....
i just dont know how you guys do it. I can see how i could get to 1.55, but beyond that just seems another planet!
respect to yous! :smt001

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:27 pm
by zimm
cargo wrote:
zimm wrote:tried it.. confused me .. changed back before i blew the engine.

my thoughts exactly....................it was hard to get over 15 years of riding a road bike out of my head.
exactly .. all that time spent as a courier is hard to unlearn .. im sure i could improve my laptimes with panniers, shoulder bag and a psychotic donald duck impersonator screaming abuse over an intercom...

saddest thing is.. it took such an effort to remeber that the bike was setup with race shift, that when i went back out having put it back to normal i changed down instead of up halfway through devils elbow at mallory .. which was err .. interesting.

Re: time for a change?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:50 pm
by cargo
Jake...................lap times are very funny my experience is that the harder you try the slower you will go.