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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:44 pm
by RedexRobB
Problem with celulose is that it can fade in places like the petrol tank where petrol is likely to get on it. 2 pack sets hard as nails but as for flexibility i dont know. They say the key to a good spray job is in the preparation.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:59 pm
by SimonH
Masters......er.....no :roll:

I just bought a tin of base coat (in kwaka lime green) and a tin of single pak laquer so we shall see what results I get......it's true tho 95% pre, 5% sprayin'

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:30 pm
by toykaboy
i resprayed my old hack in my garage out the halfords tins, i done all the prep work took the dents out my tank and everythin, i was quite chuffed realy took my time as they were 20 yrold plastics and tank !!!!

i would post a pick of it but i dunno how??


rob

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:58 pm
by Guest
My bike is finished now and sprayed it all myself.... with halfords paint, and the wheels also from an aerosol... prep took me fooking ages! 2 coats grey primer, 4 coats of colour and 2 coats of laquer.. and this is how it turned out...

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Lee

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:01 pm
by Leemc2004
That was my post above, thought I was logged in.. and just incase anyone asks.. the flat black colour is intentional. I wanted a satin finish because it was original... harder to clean though!

Lee

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:17 pm
by wonderpupp
What's involved in the prepping, or did I miss that bit?

What grade of sandypaper do you use to get all the old paint off?

And is it all done from a can?

Top notch job in the end.
Does the paint crack if you tighten the bolts too much on the seat section?

Re: Need To Learn How To Spray Paint - PROPERLY

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:37 pm
by Haggis
Just a word of warning. I painted my wife's old CBR400RR (cough, spit) using Halfords paint and lacquer.
I used a compressor and a proper air-gun for it all.
The paint went on fine (only one run, where it wasn't too obvious) 7~8 coats.
Lots of careful rubbing down, lots of cleaning, lots of effort and attention to detail.
The stickers went on, again lots of attention to detail, getting them straight and in the right places, bla, bla, bla.
The lacquer went on fine (no runs) ~ 10 coats.
Polished up and nice 'n shiny! :smt004


Then it went onto the trailer to head to Snetterton. I had the idea that it would be cheaper to fill the tank as I filled the car (go-juice at Snett is NOT cheap).
As I was clambering off the trailer, I managed to dribble some petrol on the tank.
I grabbed a tissue and wiped.

Off came the lacquer and the paint!

When I stormed into Halfords the next day, they quite calmly told me that their lacquer isn't supposed to be petrol resistant. :smt017

It's cheap (actually it's not) and cheerful (actually it's not) and it's your money (not once they have it!), so make your choice, but bear this tale of woe in mind. You get what you pay for!

Re: Need To Learn How To Spray Paint - PROPERLY

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:24 pm
by CarneyUK
I did my bike myself and then got a pro to do the final laquer stage. All paint from Halfords.......they say the final laquer stage makes up 80% of the standard of finish.

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wonderpupp wrote:What's involved in the prepping, or did I miss that bit?

What grade of sandypaper do you use to get all the old paint off?
I used 80 Grit to start with then 400 grit . Once primed 1200 grit....colour coat then 1500 grit for final laquer. I did 2 wet coats on all then gritted when dry. then another 2 coats then dry gritted.

Re: Need To Learn How To Spray Paint - PROPERLY

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:01 pm
by zimm
ive done the halfords rattle can thing in the past and yeh, petrol just takes it straight back off, even if you've used the corresponding lacquer... which you have to, as proper lacquer takes the paint off too .. lol .. it is after all acrylic paint ..

recently ive done two bikes (both zxr400's) in 2 pack, one kwak green, one "aircraft blue" goes on lovely, didnt need to lacquer it, just did 3 coats, left it a week or so and t-cut'd it back to flat and polished with decent car wax.. looks great. 2 pack tends to cover slight imperfections nicely too, unlike cellulose which does its best to accentuate every last niggly bit.

no problems with flex etc ..

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that paint job cost me £40 and took about an hour and a half.. which worked out cheaper and quicker than halfords spray on/wipe off shite.. course you need a compressor and a decent gun ..

no pics of the blue one.

doing my car in satin black this week, although using cellulose as getting a consistent satin/matt effect with 2 pack is a nightmare.. specially if you need/want to re-do parts of it again at a later date :)

Re: Need To Learn How To Spray Paint - PROPERLY

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 am
by Haggis
On the subject of 2-pack: Do you wear the fancy face mask with filtered air supply or just keep everything well ventilated?

I found some paint from Standox http://www.standox.co.uk/portal/en?page ... al_Colours. Their 'Exclusive line' is well worth a look (The Daytona Paradise is my current favourite), but at £260 a litre it'll have to wait until the Lotto is nice to me.

Check out their Data Sheets too, they give loads of tips about painting.