Security away from home

[Omega]

hows it going everyone?

well i was sitting here looking at potential security devices, when it hit me..its all good investing in an almax (for examples sake) chain thats about as thick as an elephants trunk, ground anchors etc etc, but when ur out and about somewhere, and u know that u cant lug around these devices with you...what do u do/use?

sorry if im asking a really dumb question, lol but would like to hear other peoples solutions to this...

cheers in advance
Omega

[Caz]

really depends - if Im just in town and the bike isnt going to be left for a long time, I rely on a disc lock and alarm. If Im going away overnight, I take my chain with me and make sure that I can find something to chain the bike to. I wont leave it on the street overnight unless it is chained to something

[Northern ANdy]

would just get a chain and stick it under your seat. Thats What I have. Wouldn't spend the extra on an almax chain though.

[Omega]

wat kind of products would u recommend apart from almax? only reason im clingin on to that name is i saw a video hat showed they were really hard to cut through...

[Jamz]

wat kind of products would u recommend apart from almax? only reason im clingin on to that name is i saw a video hat showed they were really hard to cut through...

Not just 'really hard' - impossible!

For the simple reason that the chain is so thick that even the biggest hand-held bolt croppers cannot cut through the links!

Do a search for Zanx on http://www.visordown.com for his vids etc.

For out and about you can't really beat a good disclock.

I'd personally recommend Squire on experience - but bear in mind the scrotes STILL carried a 200+kg VFR750 up an inclined gravel driveway and 30 yards down the road before trying (and failing) to kick it off.

Bolt croppers can't get a disclock off - so ideally use a chain AND a disclock.

If they need two different tools they're less likely to bother.

As far as what chain... any. Try to get a chain that is 'surface hardened'. This means the outside of the metal is really hard to crop - but the inside is still soft metal. If the whole thing is hardened it's brittle so that both sides of the link will shatter together. If it's just surface hardened then you'll have to crop both sides of the link to break the chain. In reality this may buy you 30 seconds of time...

[superman]

i think if someone wants to nick it bad enough then there gona have it, i got an alarm on mine so if someone even looks at it the wrong way it starts cherpin for me but i recon a disk lock with an alarm on it would be a good investment, that with the steering lock is sorted but for overnight then chain it to somet with the disc the more awkward you make it the more it puts the fkers off,

[Omega]

thanks for all the replies to the post! lol my mates was taken out of his front garden, htey just put it in a van and off they went! its scarey to think its as easy as tha though! right well im off to looks up some for some decent disk locks and chains to invest in when i finally get a bike, since mines gonna have to be tied around a tree in my council car park...

[Caz]

I work on the theory that if they really want to get it, they will. You can just make things as awkward for them as possible.

An alarm isnt going to stop your bike getting nicked, they'll just pick it up and stick it in a van with the alarm blaring.
A good quality chain and something solid will make it more difficult for them. The more different tools they are going to need, the less likely they are to bother
an alarmed disc lock is probably a good idea if you are having to leave it outside - get a thatcham one, it may also give you an insurance discount.
invest in a cover - it makes the bike a bit less obvious.


I wont live anywhere now that doesnt have a garage. When I bought my house, I only had one requirement - that it had a garages! The estate agents all seemed to find that quite funny "ah yes, you're the one who is after a garage!"

[masterofinsanity]

too true unfortunately if you were to see some blokes lifting a bike into the back of a van with the alarm blaring what would you do??

[Omega]

im a bit of a loopy guy so i would probably scream (in a masculine way of course) Oi my bike!!! and start throwing anything i could find, even though it wasnt my bike, it would hopefully attract attention of nearby people or piss them off so much they would leave the bike (ha ha ha yeah right). it like with traffic wardens even when its not my car if i see them eyeing one up ill go act like im about to get in it, or put a coin in the machine to give the persoon 1 extra hr, or do anything to put the bloody warden off his task long enough for the owner to come back! what do they most commonly do with stolen bikes? just take it to a different area and change plates or do they strip it for bits?

[Caz]

Ive had problems with my alarm - couldnt disarm it, so Ive had to push my bike along the street with the alarm going off and no one has batted an eyelid unfortunately

[masterofinsanity]

think most stolen bikes end up on ebay in bits.

[superman]

iv gota admit if i saw someone tryin to put a bike in the back of a van i would ask to see there paperwork an take the van details, BUT if it was my bike i would first smash the windscreen on the van to make sure they were goin nowhere an try an cripple the fkers lol. iv never seen anyone really nickin a bike that way, but i cant stand ppl like that anyway i really cant.

[Caz]

Now this is how quick and easy it is to steal a bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96QM-lzLM8 Please please please chain it to something with the best quality chain you can afford

[superman]

yea thats fast thats why you need chains and disk locks aint it, but if you walked past that it would be easy to know they were nickin it. but they waited till everyone was out the way. unreal thoe aint it