Need alil help with college work.
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				naurarwen
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Need alil help with college work.
I got the question of:
A steering geometry check shows a motorcycles rake angle is incorrect. State two causes of this fault.
Any ideas??
			
			
									
									A steering geometry check shows a motorcycles rake angle is incorrect. State two causes of this fault.
Any ideas??
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
whats a rake angle??????????? i bet its somet like an impact/pot hole. thats a wild guess lol
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
basically the rake angle or castor angle is "the angular displacement from the vertical axis of the suspension of a motorcycle measured in the longitudial directection. It is the angle between the pivot line and vertical."
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
Oh i C now i get it.
 
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
head on impact could alter the geometry or a cracked headstock. basically its the angle of the forks from horizontal.
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
generally stated as an angle from vertical not horizontal, but yeah.masterofinsanity wrote:basically its the angle of the forks from horizontal.
1) pot hole/crash/other impact leading to bent frame/yokes/forks
2) rear ride height is wrong (adjusted wrong, collapsed shock, anything like that. Even a flat tyre will change it slightly
3) forks are clamped at wrong height in yokes (lifting the forks through the yokes is a fairly common mod to speed up steering on slow steering bikes. reason it works is that it decreases the rake angle)
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
i knew it was either horizontal or vertical should have gone 50/50. 
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
well i believe the zxr has a rake angle of 23.5 degrees.
If that was from the horizontal....hmm
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									If that was from the horizontal....hmm
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
i was just trying to point out that it was the angle of the forks  
  
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
you mean you haven't memorised the rake angle of the ZXR400?
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
yes mate its 23.5 degrees  
			
			
									
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
I was looking at a photo the other day from someone at work of their 1920's (I think) Norton, and commented that the rake angle was pretty extreme!
It's got to have been around the same as a ZXR - which was considered pretty extreme on a road bike until the last 5 years or so! No wonder the fkrs were so good in the TT races!
			
			
									
									
						It's got to have been around the same as a ZXR - which was considered pretty extreme on a road bike until the last 5 years or so! No wonder the fkrs were so good in the TT races!
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Re: Need alil help with college work.
But they were made of pig iron Jamz  
 
Could also be a flat front tyre, tread has worn on either front or rear tyre. Rear ride height adjusted. The bike could be on a hill?
			
			
									
									
						Could also be a flat front tyre, tread has worn on either front or rear tyre. Rear ride height adjusted. The bike could be on a hill?

